Stop Chasing the Matrix: How to Live Fully in a Collapsing World (w/ Sarah Wilson)

Stop Chasing the Matrix: How to Live Fully in a Collapsing World (w/ Sarah Wilson)

June 11, 2026 · 1h 14m

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Douglas Rushkoff and Sarah Wilson discuss the need for a more enjoyable alternative to industrial capitalism and the importance of community and simplification.

If building a better future looks like a miserable exercise in self-denial, nobody is going to join. Rushkoff sits down with author and activist Sarah Wilson to discuss her new book, 'I Eat the Stars" Together, they discuss why environmental and activist movements have been weighed down by guilt, and why the alternative to industrial capitalism has to look, feel, and be better than the status quo. From trading excessive belongings for time-freedom to prioritizing deep local community, it turns out that simplifying is a hell of a lot more fun than chasing a zillion dollars on the stock market. 🌍 To support Team Human, get ad-free versions of the show, and join our private Discord community, visit: https://www.patreon.com/teamhuman 🤝 Team Human is proudly supported by Groucho. You can take 50% off your first month by using promo code "teamhuman": https://mygroucho.club/teamhuman Download Groucho: Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/groucho/id6756526142?ct=teamhuman&mt=8 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trampoline.groucho&utm_source=website&utm_medium=landing&utm_campaign=teamhuman Keep up with Sarah Wilson: Newsletter…

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