About this episode

Charles Grimes shares his journey of self-understanding after being diagnosed with Asperger's at 65.

Charles Grimes has spent nearly 30 years as a business psychologist, helping leaders understand themselves so they could lead others well. But he’s also been trying to understand himself, with therapy, courses, and numerous self-assessment tools. But it wasn't until he was 65 — when a friend made a casual, throwaway comment — that the missing piece finally clicked into place. He had Asperger's. The diagnosis didn't feel like bad news. It felt like freedom. "It's okay to be Charles. And that's something which I hadn't felt. And I'm 65. This is very late in life to suddenly feel it's okay to be me." Hear Charles talk about: What his friend said that set the whole thing in motion and why he didn't dismiss it What "masking" is, and the exhausting work of hiding in plain sight for decades The conductor who walked into rehearsal and transformed a mediocre choir without saying a word - and what this has to do with leadership What fell into place when he looked back at his life through the new lens of his diagnosis Learning about love and connection later in life — and why he thinks it's never too late Mentioned in this episode: A Question of Leadership by Charles Grimes The National…

People in this episode

Host: Stacy Raine

Guest: Charles Grimes

Topics covered

• Asperger's diagnosis
• self-discovery
• leadership
• masking
• personal growth

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: The National Autistic Society

Books & works: A Question of Leadership

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