Been There Got Out with Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry

Been There Got Out with Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry

April 19, 2026 · 32 min · Season 3

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Tracy Ann Moore-Grant discusses parental alienation with high conflict divorce strategists Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry.

In this powerful episode of the Amicable Divorce Network Podcast, host Tracy Ann Moore-Grant sits down with Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry , high conflict divorce strategists and founders of Been There Got Out , to discuss their new book When Your Ex Turns the Kids Against You — and the very real, very painful issue of parental alienation . Lisa and Chris work daily with clients they describe as battling their own personal terrorists through the family law system — and in this conversation, they pull back the curtain on what alienation actually looks like, how it starts, and what parents can do to protect their children and themselves. 💻 Find Lisa & Chris at beentheregotout.com | 📧 lisa@beentheregotout.com | chris@beentheregotout.com 📚 When Your Ex Turns the Kids Against You — available on Amazon 🌐 Find an amicable divorce professional near you at amicabledivorcenetwork.com

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