
Interview #87 Vishnu Hari, CEO of ego AI
From The Artificial Intelligence Podcast by Dr. Tony Hoang
May 25, 2026 · 19 min
About this episode
Vishnu Hari discusses the overlooked potential of character AI and the complexities of humanness in artificial intelligence.
Vishnu Hari, CEO of Ego AI, breaks down why the labs with billions in compute missed the product hiding in plain sight: character AI quietly tops every consumer retention leaderboard while the serious labs write it off as a sideshow. He argues humanness itself is the hard problem - dangerous, uncontrollable, and unchained - so the giants retreat to safe coding agents and ship characters that collapse into therapy or role-play because they never actually live lives. Vishnu takes apart the memory paradox (an agent that remembers everything is unusable; one that remembers nothing is forgettable) and points to the Nemesis system in Shadow of Mordor, a feature so good Warner Bros trademarked it, as proof you can build real relationships without superintelligence. He also gets into the edges no one wants to touch: who inherits the AI you've talked to for a decade, and why the new "I'm not human" disclosure laws are pure theater.
People in this episode
Host: Dr. Tony Hoang
Guest: Vishnu Hari
Topics covered
- character AI
- consumer retention
- humanness in AI
- memory paradox
- AI disclosure laws
Keywords
- character AI
- consumer retention
- humanness
- memory paradox
- AI laws
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Ego AI, Warner Bros
Products: Shadow of Mordor
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