1024: Into Thin Air, Pattie Gonia, & Mel Robbins' Idea

1024: Into Thin Air, Pattie Gonia, & Mel Robbins' Idea

July 6, 2026 · 59 min · Episode 1024

About this episode

The episode discusses various topics including the Everest tragedy, intellectual property issues related to Mel Robbins' work, and cultural commentary on domestic labor in Japan.

We're belatedly celebrating America's birthday, and reminiscing about the bicentennial furniture craze of 1976. Susie read the book Into Thin Air about the 1996 Everest tragedy where many climbers perished, and the unintended consequences of the book. We discuss the Mel Robbins' book, Let Them, and the allegations that the idea was "stolen" from a viral poem, and we find out why certain things are not covered by copyright rules and intellectual property limits. We talk about the lawsuit between Patagonia and a drag queen named, Pattie Gonia, where the company is having to protect their trademark, but is inspiring ire from the TikTok community who are defending their queen. We hear why Japanese women are calling for the men in their country to be as committed to contributing to the domestic labor as they are at soccer stadiums where they've gotten a lot of attention for cleaning up after games. We giggle about dads who don't know the details about their children's lives. And we learn some fun facts about album titles. 00:00 - America's Bicentennial and Furniture Style Trends 03:11 - Our New Family Member: Luna Louise Adoption Story 08:17 - Jon Krakauer's Everest: Egoism and…

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Hosts: Susie Meister, Sarah Rice

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Organizations: Patagonia

Books & works: Into Thin Air, Let Them

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