William Shatner & Neil deGrasse Tyson think ‘The Universe is Absurd’ (Part Two)

William Shatner & Neil deGrasse Tyson think ‘The Universe is Absurd’ (Part Two)

May 15, 2026 · 31 min

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Kim Masters concludes her conversation with William Shatner and Neil deGrasse Tyson, discussing space, AI, and the entertainment industry.

Kim Masters wraps up her two-part conversation with legendary actor William Shatner and famed astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson. Shatner reflects on his deeply emotional journey to space at age 90 and Tyson shares why he isn’t picky about the show biz gigs he takes. The pair also reflect on technological disruption, including how the rise of AI inspired Shatner to record a heavy metal album about the Industrial Revolution. Their two-night live event, The Universe is Absurd , will be at The Saban Theatre May 19-20.  Plus, Masters and Matt Belloni break down the strength of the new AI protections outlined in the recently finalized four-year agreement between SAG-AFTRA and the studios. They also discuss Disney’s awkward upfronts pitch , and Netflix’s continued expansion into live sports and events .

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Host: Kim Masters

Guests: William Shatner, Neil deGrasse Tyson

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Organizations: SAG-AFTRA, Disney, Netflix

Places: The Saban Theatre

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