Why NATO’s chief thinks Trump was right (with Mark Rutte)
About this episode
Dasha Burns interviews NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte about defense spending and the alliance's future amid geopolitical challenges.
At the 2026 NATO Summit in Ankara, Secretary General Mark Rutte joins Dasha to discuss NATO's historic defense spending overhaul, Russia's war in Ukraine, Greenland, President Trump's demands of the alliance, and whether NATO can withstand growing questions about America's future role in European security. Plus, POLITICO’s diplomatic correspondent Felicia Schwartz and defense reporter Jack Detsch give their takeaways from the summit. Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.
People in this episode
Host: Dasha Burns
Guest: Mark Rutte
Topics covered
- NATO
- defense spending
- Russia's war in Ukraine
- European security
- Trump's demands
Keywords
- NATO
- Mark Rutte
- defense spending
- Russia
- Trump
- European security
- 2026 NATO Summit
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: NATO, POLITICO
Places: Russia, Greenland
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