Veteran ABS Investor Sees ‘Max Uncertainty With Max Complacency’

Veteran ABS Investor Sees ‘Max Uncertainty With Max Complacency’

May 28, 2026 · 54 min

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Paul Norris discusses the current state of credit markets and the risks associated with bad software loans, drawing parallels to the global financial crisis.

Bad software loans will cause credit-market trouble that recalls aspects of the global financial crisis, according to American Century Investments. “We call it max uncertainty with max complacency,” says Paul Norris, referring to tight credit spreads, in this episode of the Credit Edge podcast. “What’s interesting to me is the subprime crisis was very similar,” Norris, who leads the $330 billion asset manager’s securitized markets team, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Reto Bachmann. They also discuss growing risks to business development companies and collateralized loan obligations, advantages of public over private asset-backed debt and why residential mortgages are a buy.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hosts: James Crombie, Reto Bachmann

Guest: Paul Norris

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