
Ryan Long discusses the structural failures in American drug pricing and the implications of the 340B program.
Episode Summary Ryan Long — former senior policy advisor to Speaker Kevin McCarthy and current non-resident senior scholar at the USC Schaefer Institute — joins Drs. Koka and DiGiorgio for a deep dive into the structural failures driving American drug pricing. The conversation covers the list-to-net price bubble and why patients pay cost-sharing on a fictitious number, how the IRA's price-setting mechanism disincentivizes both new drug development and subsequent indications, and why the 340B program — sold politically as a lifeline for safety net hospitals — systematically funnels the most money to wealthy health systems with high commercial payer mixes. Long argues the fix isn't tweaking the formula; it's scrapping the drug arbitrage mechanism entirely and replacing it with a direct, transparent grant program that actually reaches the hospitals that need it. Chapter Markers 00:00 Introduction — Ryan Long's 25 Years in Health Policy 02:08 Drug Pricing 101: List Price vs. Net Price and Why It Matters 06:39 GLP-1s as a Case Study: Insurance Pullback and the Price War That Followed 11:17 The Medicare Bridge Program and Government Price Setting for GLP-1s 14:11 Why Drug Companies Set…
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