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The episode discusses how countries outside the US and China can secure access to AI technology and leverage it for economic growth.

When the US government banned a top AI lab from exporting its newest models, the world took notice. Export controls forbidding foreign access to Anthropic’s Mythos and Fable systems locked most of the world out of using this cutting-edge technology. As AI becomes more embedded in our daily lives, countries want to secure access to frontier models. But unless you’re the US or China, your country doesn’t have a top-tier national champion. So what can other countries do to secure sovereign control over AI? What kind of leverage can they exert? And can they use AI to boost – rather than break – their economies? Soumaya speaks to UK AI minister Kanishka Narayan to discuss. Subscribe to Soumaya's show on Apple , Spotify , Pocket Casts or wherever you listen. Further Reading How the DeepMind mafia brought the AI boom to London UK companies ‘should be worried’ about Anthropic’s latest AI model, minister says Did Anthropic talk its way into an AI export ban? Anthropic chief tells G7 leaders to ‘resist the temptation to splinter’ over AI Presented by Soumaya Keynes. Produced by Mischa Frankl-Duval. Manuela Saragosa is the executive producer. Sound design by Sean McGarrity. Original…

People in this episode

Host: Soumaya Keynes

Guest: Kanishka Narayan

Topics covered

• AI technology
• export controls
• sovereign control
• economic impact
• international relations
• AI policy

Keywords

• AI
• export ban
• Anthropic
• sovereign control
• economic growth
• international AI policy

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Financial Times, Anthropic, DeepMind

Places: UK, US, China

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