Allbirds is AI now + A chat with Exit 8 director Genki Kawamura

Allbirds is AI now + A chat with Exit 8 director Genki Kawamura

From The Engadget Podcast by Engadget

April 17, 2026 · 1h 3m · Episode 306

About this episode

This episode discusses Allbirds' transformation into an AI company and covers various topics including the Artemis II mission and social media's impact on teens.

So a shoe company turned into an AI company…. That’s it, that’s the joke. In this episode, Devindra chats with Engadget’s Daniel Cooper about Allbirds’ sudden transformation and what it says about the AI economy. Also, they chat about the Artemis II moon mission, Meta being warned about the dangers of facial recognition (again) and how teens think social media is really shaping them. Near-dead shoe company Allbirds is doing AI now – 1:47 Artemis II safely returns to Earth, did you know they had DLSRs and iPhones up there? – 15:57 Meta warned by dozens of civil rights organizations that facial recognition in its smart glasses will enable predators – 28:41 Social media isn’t bad for teens, say teens – 36:00 NAACP sues xAI over data center pollution – 44:30 Around Engadget – 50:28

People in this episode

Host: Devindra

Guest: Daniel Cooper

Topics covered

  • AI transformation
  • space exploration
  • facial recognition
  • social media impact
  • data center pollution

Keywords

  • Allbirds
  • AI economy
  • Artemis II
  • facial recognition
  • social media
  • NAACP
  • xAI

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Allbirds, Meta, NAACP, xAI

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