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Dave Farley and Gene Kim discuss the implications of AI in software development and the concept of Vibe Coding.

In this episode of The Engineering Room, Dave Farley talks with with Gene Kim, the bestselling author of "The Phoenix Project," "The Unicorn Project," and "Accelerate: The Science of Lean Software and DevOps." They discuss the controversial topic of "Vibe Coding," a concept Gene explored in his recent collaboration with Steve Yegge. While Dave initially described Vibe Coding as "one of the worst ideas of 2025," this conversation unpacks whether AI actually represents a fundamental shift in how we build software. ---------------------- Gene Kim LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/realgenekim/ Gene Kim ''X'' (formerly "'Twitter") https://x.com/@RealGeneKim Equal Experts is a product software development consultancy with a network of over 1,000 experienced technology consultants globally. They increase the pace of innovation by using modern software engineering practices that embrace Continuous Delivery, Security, and Operability from the outset ➡️ https://bit.ly/3ASy8n0 Only Patreon Supporters get to see the FULL VIDEO Episodes of The Engineering Room, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/c/continuousdelivery 📖 "The Software Developers’ Guidebook Amazon ➡️…

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Host: Dave Farley

Guest: Gene Kim

Topics covered

• AI Coding
• Vibe Coding
• Software Development
• DevOps
• Continuous Delivery

Keywords

• AI
• Vibe Coding
• software engineering
• DevOps
• Continuous Delivery

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Equal Experts

Books & works: The Phoenix Project, The Unicorn Project, Accelerate: The Science of Lean Software and DevOps

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