Episode 397: The Leckie Protocol and All Things 5-MeO-DMT with Steve Rio

Episode 397: The Leckie Protocol and All Things 5-MeO-DMT with Steve Rio

From The Entheogenic Evolution by Martin W. Ball

June 8, 2026 · 2h 8m · Episode 397

About this episode

The episode discusses The Leckie Protocol and features a mini-interview with a student from the 5-MeO-DMT Integration Specialist Training course.

The other month the world got to watch as Bryan Johnson live-streamed his 5-MeO-DMT experience with Enfold that made use of "The Leckie Protocol," which combines vaporized with injected 5-MeO. Steve Rio suggested we have another conversation about it given the widespread interest, and I was happy to have him join me back on the podcast. We had another great, lengthy conversation about the protocol and just jamming on the topic of 5-MeO-DMT in general. Also in this episode I've got a mini-interview with a student who completed my 5-MeO-DMT Integration Specialist Training course, Jay Monger. Jay provided this short interview to help promote the Fall Term of my course, which starts on Sept 9th. For more information about the course you can learn all about it at www.martinball.net/courses - enrollment is now open.

People in this episode

Host: Martin W. Ball

Guest: Steve Rio

Topics covered

  • 5-MeO-DMT
  • The Leckie Protocol
  • Integration Specialist Training
  • psychedelics
  • personal experiences
  • mental health

Keywords

  • 5-MeO-DMT
  • The Leckie Protocol
  • psychedelics
  • integration training
  • mental health
  • Bryan Johnson
  • Steve Rio

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Enfold, 5-MeO-DMT Integration Specialist Training

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