
The episode features a conversation with Sarah Ichioka about the intersection of fashion, sustainability, and urban planning.
Can fashion teach us how to build better futures? For Episode 5 of Power of Swapping Season 2, we’re honoured to be joined by Sarah Ichioka: American-British urbanist, strategist, writer, and founder of Desire Lines, a cross-disciplinary practice helping communities and organisations imagine more regenerative futures. Based in Singapore, Sarah has become a leading voice in regenerative design and urban planning, challenging the way we think about growth, sustainability, and the systems we build around us. Her co-authored book Flourish: Design Paradigms for Our Planetary Emergency invites us to rethink what progress could look like if we truly learned from nature, community, and indigenous knowledge. In this conversation, we explore how these ideas connect back to fashion, the spaces we create, the systems we participate in, and how small mindset shifts can influence the future we collectively shape. A thoughtful and expansive conversation that reminded us sustainability isn’t just about consuming less, but learning how to live, design, and relate differently. 🎧 Episode 5 is now live. Come sit with us for a while.
Guest: Sarah Ichioka
Organizations: Desire Lines
Books & works: Flourish: Design Paradigms for Our Planetary Emergency
Places: Singapore, America, Britain
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