Extra: Why A Navy TOPGUN Pilot is Fighting for Psychedelic Therapy

Extra: Why A Navy TOPGUN Pilot is Fighting for Psychedelic Therapy

April 26, 2026 · 25 min

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Matthew “Whiz” Buckley discusses his experience with psychedelic therapy and the implications of recent policy changes.

President Trump has opened the door to faster research on psychedelics and potential treatment approvals with an executive order focused, in part, on one substance in particular: ibogaine, which has helped some people overcome opioid addiction and treat mental health issues. However, U.S. research on several psychedelics—including psilocybin, derived from so-called "magic mushrooms"—has faced strict limitations because they are currently in the same federal drug classification as heroin. While opponents call these substances dangerous, some veterans say these treatments have already saved lives, including Matthew “Whiz” Buckley. A decorated Navy fighter pilot and TOPGUN graduate, Buckley is the founder of the No Fallen Heroes Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to helping veterans heal through psychedelic therapies. He recently joined the FOX News Rundown to tell host Lisa Brady about his own experience with ibogaine treatment in Mexico, where it is legal, and what it was like to be in the Oval Office for the recent signing of the President’s executive order. In this extended conversation, Buckley discusses his hopes for the new policy, the personal impact of his treatment, and his…

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