
Rivers and Art Brothers discuss the challenges of trusting love after experiencing parental divorce.
What does it take to trust love when you grew up watching it fall apart? Why is life so hard when the people we depend on hurt us—and how do you learn to trust again without certainty? In this episode, Rivers sits down with his longtime friend Art Brothers to talk about the quiet aftershocks of divorce, the fear of getting it wrong, and the slow work of choosing commitment anyway. From relationships to creativity to faith, this is a conversation about learning to live with both caution and hope—and how, over time, experiences like these begin to shape what love means and what actually matters.
Host: Steve Harris
Guest: Art Brothers
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