E153: Your Pastor Is Human

E153: Your Pastor Is Human

From The Happiest Lives Podcast by Jill M. Lillard

June 12, 2026 · 25 min · Season 2026 · Episode 153

About this episode

Jill discusses the humanity of pastors and the impact of church leadership on congregants' experiences of church hurt.

Have you ever been in a church situation where something felt off, raised it, and had it go nowhere — and now you’re trying to understand why? You can’t have an honest conversation about church hurt without looking at leadership. The structure around leaders and the humanity inside them shapes everything. In this episode Jill starts with something that sounds obvious but rarely gets said honestly — pastors are human. Fully, vulnerably human. And when that reality doesn’t have the right...

People in this episode

Host: Jill M. Lillard

Topics covered

  • church leadership
  • pastoral humanity
  • church hurt
  • honest conversations
  • spirituality

Keywords

  • pastors
  • church hurt
  • leadership
  • humanity
  • spirituality

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