HBAC 157: Head, Heart, Hands and Health

HBAC 157: Head, Heart, Hands and Health

June 18, 2026 · 44 min

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The episode features a discussion with Sam Swank about his experiences in 4-H and a conversation with his mother, Amy Swank, on the impacts of data centers in Ohio.

We open the latest episode of the Audio Companion by welcoming Sam Swank , a longtime member of 4-H , who discussed his experiences with the organization and his current project studying yeast breads. Sam, who joined 4-H at age six, described the program as a place where you learn about nature, practical skills and career interests while pursuing projects that match your passions. His own interests have ranged from birding and fishing to baking. Currently working on a yeast bread project for the county fair, Sam turned the tables on Jordan and asked thoughtful questions about donut making, including how yeast is activated, how commercial baking differs from home baking, and what kind of training is needed to become a professional baker. The conversation highlighted one of 4-H’s enduring strengths: its ability to introduce young people to skilled trades, science, agriculture and entrepreneurship through hands-on learning. Founded more than a century ago, with deep roots in Ohio, 4-H remains one of the nation’s largest youth development organizations, reaching millions of participants through local clubs and county fairs. The second half of the program shifted to a much more…

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