Sixty Years of Hurt: 2. England v Mavericks

Sixty Years of Hurt: 2. England v Mavericks

From The History Podcast by BBC Radio 4

May 23, 2026 · 28 min · Season 14 · Episode 2

About this episode

This episode explores the challenges England faces with maverick talent in football, reflecting on its cultural implications.

'Sixty Years of Hurt with David Baddiel' explores the meaning of England and Englishness through the history of the England Men’s Football team. This is a social and cultural history as much as a sporting one, examining the story England tells about itself and how it's changed, via the medium of the international game. In episode two, England v Mavericks, David shares a theory that he once unsuccessfully shared with England Manager, Terry Venables. England isn’t good at dealing with talent, specifically with maverick talent, talent that doesn’t play by the rules - the best kind of talent. As a result, England men’s football is littered with wonderous players who won very few caps, and never more than in the 1970s. David thinks the team, in this respect, represents the country and gets to the bottom of how various kinds of Englishness fought to keep the genius Brian Clough away from the manager’s job, and Rodney Marsh, the most talented player of his generation, away from the team. Across the series, David Baddiel will be joined by contributors including Stephen Fry, Alex James, Maisie Adam, Elis James, Barney Ronay, Roy Williams, Des Lynam, Stuart Pearce, Jean Williams, David…

People in this episode

Host: David Baddiel

Guests: Stephen Fry, Alex James, Maisie Adam, Elis James, Barney Ronay, Roy Williams, Des Lynam, Stuart Pearce, Jean Williams, David Goldblatt, Pippa Grange, Jonathan Wilson, David Seaman, Omid Djalili

Topics covered

  • England Men's Football
  • Cultural History
  • Maverick Talent
  • Englishness
  • Sporting History
  • Football Management

Keywords

  • England football
  • David Baddiel
  • maverick talent
  • Brian Clough
  • Rodney Marsh
  • Terry Venables
  • cultural history
  • football management

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Organizations: BBC Radio 4, BBC Studios Audio, Left Bank Pictures

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