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Larry P. Arnn interviews Leif Babin about leadership lessons from warfare and the challenges faced by America's military today.

In this episode of  The Larry Arnn Show , Hillsdale College President Larry P. Arnn interviews Leif Babin, former U.S. Navy SEAL officer, co-author of New York Times bestseller  Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEAL s Lead and Win , and co-founder of Echelon Front . The two discuss the bloody lessons Babin acquired about leadership from his time in the Middle East, what we can learn from warfare in classical history, and the challenges America’s military faces today. This interview was conducted on April 1st, 2026. Discover more at podcast.hillsdale.edu. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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