
America will be effin' back — but not for a while
From The Line by Matt Gurney and Jen Gerson
April 7, 2026 · 42 min
About this episode
Matt Gurney speaks with retired U.S. Army lieutenant general Mark Hertling about America's role in the world and military leadership.
In this episode of On The Line, Matt Gurney speaks with Mark Hertling, a retired U.S. Army lieutenant general, former commander of U.S. Army Europe, and a longtime commentator on military affairs and leadership. The conversation begins with an unusual connection. Hertling had referenced one of Matt’s columns in a recent speech, which a Line reader flagged and sent along. That led to an invitation — and a wide-ranging discussion about the United States’ role in the world, the strain on Western...
People in this episode
Host: Matt Gurney
Guest: Mark Hertling
Topics covered
- U.S. military
- global role
- leadership
- Western strain
- military affairs
Keywords
- military
- leadership
- U.S. Army
- global affairs
- Western strain
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: U.S. Army, U.S. Army Europe
Places: United States, Western
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