Little Red Podcast x Face Off
About this episode
The episode explores a historical espionage tale involving CIA agents in China and discusses current US-China spying dynamics.
As an Easter treat, we're bringing you a cracking tale of espionage from one of our favourite China podcasts: Face Off. We'll be back shortly with a new season called China Rules. Espionage Two young CIA agents were flown to northern China in 1952, part of a bizarre Cold War operation to overthrow Mao Zedong. The plane crashed. The two Americans were arrested, and jailed for 20 years. We fast forward to today and turn the tables: How does China spy on the US now? Who is ahead in the fight over the new technologies? Guests: John DeLury, author, Agents of Subversion; Nigel Inkster, former director operations, MI6; former agent in Beijing. Details about John Delury’s compelling book that tells the story of how two CIA operatives were captured in China and how they endured 20 years in jail. https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501765971/agents-of-subversion/ Nigel Inkster’s book about the US and China, the two big tech competitors. https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Great_Decoupling/K4xfzQEACAAJ?hl=en See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
People in this episode
Hosts: Graeme Smith, Louisa Lim
Guests: John DeLury, Nigel Inkster
Topics covered
- espionage
- CIA
- China
- technology
- Cold War
- US-China relations
Keywords
- espionage
- CIA
- China
- technology
- Cold War
- John DeLury
- Nigel Inkster
- Agents of Subversion
- The Great Decoupling
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: CIA, MI6, Face Off
Books & works: Agents of Subversion, The Great Decoupling
Places: China, US
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