Between Two Worlds - On Future Storytelling with Kathy Ryan

Between Two Worlds - On Future Storytelling with Kathy Ryan

December 22, 2025 · 1h 16m · Season 1 · Episode 103

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In this episode, Gem Fletcher discusses the future of storytelling in photography with Kathy Ryan.

Welcome back. To celebrate reaching the 100th episode of the podcast, I collaborated with the team at the International Centre of Photography in New York City, to host a one day salon. My motivation was to gather the community together in person and start talking about where we stand in photography. Titled, Between Two Worlds, the salon was an attempt to describe the feeling of existing in two image worlds, the one we think we know, and the new one emerging. We can sense that this new image world operates differently to the one we were socialised in—and yet it’s unclear exactly how. Before you dive in, I wanted to share what I told the audience at the salon - there are no tidy or easy answers here. In fact my expectation is that these conversations will involve a lot of complexity and contradiction, but holding space for, and embracing this chaos, is in my opinion, the urgent work that needs to be done.  In this episode I discuss the future of storytelling with Kathy Ryan For three decades, Kathy Ryan, the longtime director of photography at The New York Times Magazine, pioneered her own vision for visual storytelling. Her signature approach to masterful commissioning was…

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