#191 - Cloudy reflections

#191 - Cloudy reflections

From The Middle by Andy and Roger

June 20, 2026 · 38 min · Season 1 · Episode 191

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Andy and Roger discuss the intersection of American politics and entertainment, touching on various political figures and events.

🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 191 – Cloudy reflections In this episode, Andy and Roger discover that nothing captures the state of American politics quite like a mysteriously green reflecting pool outside the White House. From there, things only become more normal. The conversation takes in Donald Trump’s latest foreign policy backflip, the prospect of UFC fights on the White House lawn, and whether politics would be improved by settling succession battles inside a cage. Andy and Roger debate whether MMA belongs at the people’s house, ponder hypothetical match-ups involving JD Vance, Marco Rubio, Kamala Harris and AOC, and wonder if America has finally confused entertainment with government altogether. Back home, they discuss Pauline Hanson’s appearance at the National Press Club, the growing appeal of One Nation’s media strategy, and whether Australia’s political system is really vulnerable to a populist insurgency. There is also time for an unexpected detour into Carl Sandilands’ future career prospects, the demise of McDonald’s Angus burgers, an hour-long fast food wait that tests Andy’s patience, and the economics of ordering $700 worth of nuggets through a drive-through. To…

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