AI and the Ensemble: Mob Programming's New Frontier with James Herr and Woody Zuill

AI and the Ensemble: Mob Programming's New Frontier with James Herr and Woody Zuill

July 7, 2026 · 49 min · Episode 330

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The episode discusses the intersection of AI and mob programming, exploring how AI impacts collaboration in software development.

In this Mob Mentality Show episode, Chris Lucian sits down with Woody Zuill and James Herr to explore one of the most pressing questions in software teaming today: when AI is writing the code and your team is barely touching the keyboard, where does mob programming fit in? Rather than pushing collaboration aside, James and Woody argue that AI is exposing long-standing bottlenecks more clearly than ever — and that the ensemble is more important now, not less. They share the "AIM Mobbing" perspective they are developing, showing how AI and software teaming unlock the full ensemble by finally removing code as a barrier to participation. Chris adds insights from his own agentic workflow experiments at Hunter Industries — running multiple agents in parallel in a "plate spinning" pattern, using a mutation testing agent running continuously in the background, and crafting large prompts designed to complete 2+ hours of work autonomously. The group also explores how context window management, modular skills files, and code generators solve the consistency problems that make many developers skeptical of AI-generated code. Woody shares his honest experience with LLM reliability and the…

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Host: Chris Lucian

Guests: Woody Zuill, James Herr

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Organizations: Hunter Industries

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