Is There a MAGA Catholic Rift? Kash Patel Sues The Atlantic, Katy Perry Under Investigation + Trump vs Pope Leo ft. Colleen Dulle

About this episode

The episode discusses Kash Patel's lawsuit against The Atlantic, allegations against Katy Perry, and a conversation with Colleen Dulle about the implications of Trump's conflict with Pope Leo and the MAGA Catholic rift.

Kash Patel is suing The Atlantic for $250 million after a report citing two dozen anonymous sources says the FBI director has a serious drinking problem, and Meredith Lynch and Rebecca Sananès have thoughts on why Trump, who hates alcohol, might fire him next. Plus: Lori Chavez-DeRemer is out as Labor Secretary, and the pattern of cabinet departures is accelerating. Then: Ruby Rose is alleging that Katy Perry sexually assaulted her in a club, and Katy Perry's rep responded by attacking Ruby Rose's character. Meredith and Rebecca on why women can be abusers too, the power dynamic nobody is talking about, and what Katy Perry's relationship with Russell Brand might tell us. Then Colleen Dulle — Vatican correspondent at America Media and host of Inside the Vatican — on why Trump picked a fight with Pope Leo, whether it's creating a real MAGA Catholic rift, why Leo was really elected, whether JD Vance's Catholic book cover featuring a Methodist church is the most on-brand mistake of the administration, and why Pope Leo probably won't come back to the United States until Trump is out of office. Plus: is there really a surge of young people going to Catholic mass? Topics: Kash Patel…

People in this episode

Hosts: Meredith Lynch, Rebecca Sananès

Guest: Colleen Dulle

Topics covered

• Kash Patel Atlantic lawsuit
• Trump vs Pope Leo
• MAGA Catholic rift
• Katy Perry Ruby Rose assault allegations
• Lori Chavez-DeRemer resigned
• JD Vance Catholic book
• young people returning to church

Keywords

• Kash Patel
• The Atlantic
• Katy Perry
• Ruby Rose
• Pope Leo
• MAGA Catholic rift
• JD Vance
• Lori Chavez-DeRemer
• young people church

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: The Atlantic

Books & works: Inside the Vatican

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