Friday Focus: The hidden cost of a deal with Iran — and the Pope sounds the alarm on AI

Friday Focus: The hidden cost of a deal with Iran — and the Pope sounds the alarm on AI

May 29, 2026 · 22 min

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The episode discusses the potential implications of a U.S.-Iran deal and the Pope's warnings about AI's impact on humanity.

We may be on the cusp of a deal between Iran and the U.S., as both sides appear to be losing interest in keeping the Strait of Hormuz closed. But is this merely a ceasefire extension, with Iran’s nuclear program deferred to future negotiations? If Iran ultimately gives up its enriched uranium, it will be seen as a win for Trump — but at a steep cost: Iran will have demonstrated that control over the Strait of Hormuz can effectively deter the world’s superpower. Rudyard argues that maintaining great-power status requires sacrifice to restore deterrence, something the current U.S. administration seems unwilling to do. Can America remain a great power without paying that price? In the second half of the show, Rudyard and Janice discuss the Pope’s encyclical letter released this week — with one of Anthropic’s co-founders in attendance — in which he warned about AI’s threat to humanity. The Pope emphasized the dignity of work and cautioned that using AI to eliminate human labor is deeply misguided and anti-human. Are governments around the world prepared for the disruption that’s coming? Become a Munk Donor ($50 annually) to get 72-hour advanced access to the full length editions of…

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