Think Outside the Job: How to Shift Your Career Mindset

Think Outside the Job: How to Shift Your Career Mindset

From The New CISO by Steve Moore

November 13, 2025 · 52 min · Season 1 · Episode 137

About this episode

Gideon Knocke discusses the importance of thinking outside traditional job roles for career growth and success in cybersecurity.

In this episode of The New CISO (Episode 137), host Steve Moore speaks with Gideon Knocke, CISO at Visage Imaging , about rethinking how we grow in our careers and why learning to “think outside the job” is key to long-term success. From studying cybersecurity when the field was still new to leading security for millions of patient records in healthcare, Gideon shares how his early curiosity and “career accidents” helped shape his mindset as a modern CISO. He reflects on shifting from technical problem-solving to people-centric leadership, learning how visibility and credibility shape opportunity, and why networking—inside and outside your company—is essential for resilience and growth. Gideon also explains why risk quantification isn’t just about numbers, but about decision-making, communication, and understanding what your organization truly values. Key Topics Covered: Early lessons from studying cybersecurity before it went mainstream Why some of the best careers evolve through “happy accidents” and curiosity How to build visibility and relevance beyond doing good work The difference between being seen as an asset versus a person How networking and outreach can transform your…

People in this episode

Host: Steve Moore

Guest: Gideon Knocke

Topics covered

  • career growth
  • cybersecurity
  • leadership
  • networking
  • risk quantification
  • visibility
  • communication

Keywords

  • career mindset
  • CISO
  • healthcare security
  • public speaking
  • team leadership
  • networking
  • risk management

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Visage Imaging

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