#173 - Liberman - We’re Training AI to Get Rid Of Us

#173 - Liberman - We’re Training AI to Get Rid Of Us

May 8, 2026 · 2h 2m

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Daniil and David Liberman discuss the urgent implications of AI development and the need for decentralization to prevent a two-tier society.

Two brothers who escaped Russia say we have 2 years before AI replaces us - and we're paying the corporations building it. Daniil & David Liberman sold their first company to Snapchat. Now they're racing to build a decentralised alternative to OpenAI and Google before the window closes. They explain why centralised AI ends in a two-tier world - a small elite with access, and the rest of us as "moving parts" - and why the next 24 months decide which path we take. In this episode: → Why you can't opt out of AI and stay competitive → The recursive loop: AI is now writing AI → Why the kill switch won't work → What they saw inside Russia in 2008 that's happening now with AI → The darkest scenario they almost didn't want to say out loud - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 - AI & Human Freedom 00:01:51 - Invisible Slavery 00:05:00 - Bitcoin vs AI Centralisation 00:10:25 - AI Addiction Begins 00:14:27 - The End Of Upward Mobility 00:17:33 - The Beautiful AI Future 00:23:16 - Why Monopolies Win 00:32:36 - Inflation, AI & Collapse 00:45:16 - Bitcoin As AI Blueprint 01:01:45 - The Mythos Fear…

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Host: Peter McCormack

Guests: Daniil Liberman, David Liberman

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Organizations: Snapchat, OpenAI, Google

Places: Russia

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