The populist Democrat taking on his own party (with Abdul El-Sayed) | The Conversation

The populist Democrat taking on his own party (with Abdul El-Sayed) | The Conversation

July 19, 2026 · 44 min

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Abdul El-Sayed discusses his candidacy for the Democratic nomination in Michigan and critiques both major political parties.

Abdul El-Sayed – the progressive former public health official running for the Democratic nomination in Michigan's open Senate seat – joins Dasha to explain why he believes "both parties are lying" to working Americans, unleashes on the ‘hypocrisy’ of the Democratic establishment, and defends his record on “Defund the Police,” ICE, socialism and more.  Have thoughts for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at 202-643-1536.

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