Be the Work: From Human Doing to Human Being - Stefanie Kleine, Ph.D.

Be the Work: From Human Doing to Human Being - Stefanie Kleine, Ph.D.

June 22, 2026 · 55 min · Season 1 · Episode 361

About this episode

Dr. Stefanie Kleine discusses the shift from achievement to self-acceptance and the role of psychedelics in personal transformation.

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin sits down with Dr. Stefanie Kleine, psychospiritual coach, author of BE THE WORK, and co-founder of The Sacred House of Eden, to explore the hidden wound that often drives achievement and why lasting transformation happens on the level of being rather than doing. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-361/?ref=278 Drawing on more than two decades of experience coaching executives, founders, athletes, physicians, and other high performers, Stefanie shares how her first psychedelic experience revealed the pattern beneath a lifetime of accomplishment and opened a path toward deeper self-acceptance. She explains her framework of grasping versus generative desire, the Be-Do-Have inversion, and why many personal growth and wellness practices can unintentionally reinforce the same striving they aim to heal. The conversation also explores psychedelic integration, Internal Family Systems-informed coaching, conscious leadership, nervous system regulation, AI and human connection, and what it means to move from proving your worth to inhabiting it. Throughout, Stefanie offers a grounded…

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Host: Paul F. Austin

Guest: Stefanie Kleine, Ph.D.

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Organizations: The Sacred House of Eden

Books & works: BE THE WORK

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