
About this episode
The episode discusses the impact of DEI programs on merit and features insights from Heather Mac Donald and Richard Samuelson.
Guests: Heather Mac Donald and Richard Samuelson Host Scot Bertram talks with Heather Mac Donald, the Thomas W. Smith fellow at the Manhattan Institute and contributing editor at City Journal , about efforts by the Trump administration to curb DEI programs and her book When Race Trumps Merit: How the Pursuit of Equity Sacrifices Excellence, Destroys Beauty, and Threatens Lives . And Richard Samuelson, associate professor of government at Hillsdale College’s Washington, D.C. campus, continues a series celebrating the 250th anniversary of the United States. This week, Thomas Paine’s Common Sense and Abigail Adams’ admonition to “remember the ladies.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
People in this episode
Host: Scot Bertram
Guests: Heather Mac Donald, Richard Samuelson
Topics covered
- race and merit
- DEI programs
- equity vs excellence
- American history
- Thomas Paine
- Abigail Adams
Keywords
- race
- merit
- DEI
- equity
- excellence
- Thomas Paine
- Abigail Adams
- American history
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Manhattan Institute, City Journal, Hillsdale College
Books & works: When Race Trumps Merit, Common Sense
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