Markets Are Too Optimistic: They’re Ignoring the Risks That Matter | Chris Irons & Michelle Makori

Markets Are Too Optimistic: They’re Ignoring the Risks That Matter | Chris Irons & Michelle Makori

April 17, 2026 · 1h 21m

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Michelle Makori interviews Christopher Irons about the risks in today's market and parallels to the 2008 financial crisis.

Michelle Makori, President & Editor-in-Chief, Miles Franklin Media, sits down with Christopher Irons, Author of QTR’s Fringe Finance Substack, to break down why today’s market may be repeating the same dangerous patterns that led to the 2008 financial crisis. As stocks push to all-time highs, Irons warns that beneath the surface, serious cracks are forming — from private credit stress to rising delinquencies and hidden leverage across the system. He explains why the market may be “pricing perfection,” why the next shock could come from an unpredictable “black swan,” and why the real risks are building in areas most investors aren’t watching. Irons also shares his outlook on gold, Bitcoin, and where he sees opportunity in a system increasingly driven by liquidity, intervention, and growing inequality. In this episode of The Real Story with Michelle Makori: - Why this market setup looks like 2008 again - The private credit risks no one is talking about - “Endless black swans” and unpredictable market shocks - The Fed, liquidity, and what happens when the system cracks - Gold vs. Bitcoin: where Irons is placing his bets - Sectors to avoid and where he sees opportunity Follow…

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