The Future of Work is Grey – Dan Pontefract

The Future of Work is Grey – Dan Pontefract

June 15, 2026 · 32 min · Season 9 · Episode 418

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Dan Pontefract discusses the value of age in the workforce and reframes the working life arc.

Take charge of your future. Our next group proram starts in September and is limited to 10 people. The Very Early Registration discount (45%) ends on June 21. Learn more here . — Dan Pontefract spent two decades building leadership, culture, and engagement inside high-tech and telecom organizations, and never once thought seriously about age. Then, in his early fifties, he had a wake-up call. It sent him to look under a rock he’d never lifted, where he found “an absolute cavern of issues.” The result is his sixth book, The Future is Grey: The Untapped Value of Age in the Workforce . Dan lays out the coming “bell to bulb” demographic inversion and the risks for organizations ignoring it. For individuals, he reframes the whole arc of a working life, from the language of generations (which he rejects as an ageist cognitive bias) to three universal career eras: Rivers, Rocks, and Rubies. That demographic inversion means experience will become more scarce and valuable. The through-line is don’t retire, rewire instead. He shares stories of people who kept working or returned to work in a different way, which brings his concept of the “experience dividend” to life…

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Host: Retirement Wisdom

Guest: Dan Pontefract

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Organizations: SAP, TELUS, Business Objects, Salesforce, Amgen

Books & works: The Future is Grey: The Untapped Value of Age in the Workforce

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