You're Looking for Validation, Not the Truth (Here's Why It's Killing You) | S2S 541

You're Looking for Validation, Not the Truth (Here's Why It's Killing You) | S2S 541

May 14, 2026 · 1h 9m · Episode 541

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The episode explores the tendency to demonize visionaries and the difference between seeking validation and constructive feedback.

Most people say they want the truth, but the moment it shows up, they call the messenger a villain. This episode picks up where the Joe Jackson conversation left off and turns the mirror around. The real question isn't whether Joe was too hard on Michael. It's why we keep demonizing every coach, mentor, and visionary with the gift to push us toward what we say we want. DISCLAIMER: Our focus in this episode is not the Jackson family, and we are not endorsing or excusing abuse of any kind. Our focus is what happens when people push us because they see we are capable of more, and get demonized for it. The Jackson story is a starting point, not the subject.The guys dig into why visionaries always get villainized, why our relationship with trauma is broken, and the difference between feedback and validation. Karl shares the "Carlos" moment that changed how he receives criticism. ET tells the Mr. Gene swim instructor story that put this entire philosophy to the test with his own son. If you've ever fired the person trying to save you, this one is for you. In this episode: Why every visionary, from Moses to Joe Jackson, gets demonized during the process Why you can't receive help unless…

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Hosts: Karl, ET, CJ, Jemal, Eric Thomas

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