About this episode

Travis Bader and Rocky Swanson discuss the recent Pentagon release of UFO files and insights from Rocky's military background.

Last Friday, the Pentagon released 162 declassified UFO files through a brand-new portal called PURSUE. The first formal federal release in 80 years. Some are calling it disclosure. Some are calling it a nothing burger. Rocky Swanson has spent his life inside the kind of system that handles this material. Joined the Royal Canadian Army Cadets at twelve. Served a full career in the Canadian Armed Forces, including a NORAD posting. Came home and became deputy fire chief in the town he grew up in. He was approached by the federal government to advise on a Canadian UAP initiative alongside sitting members of parliament. He was a guest co-host on a podcast that interviewed Lue Elizondo, the former Pentagon official who put UFOs on the front page of the New York Times in 2017. He got close enough to see the seams. In this episode Travis and Rocky walk through the Pentagon release, the actual evidence in the new tranche, why three pilots are not the same thing as three radar tracks, why Skinwalker Ranch matters more than people think, what really happened inside AATIP, who Bob Lazar actually is, and why the most interesting UAP case Rocky has ever encountered did not come from the…

People in this episode

Host: Travis Bader

Guest: Rocky Swanson

Topics covered

• UFOs
• government disclosure
• military insights
• UAP
• Canadian Forces
• evidence analysis

Keywords

• UFO files
• Pentagon
• Rocky Swanson
• AATIP
• UAP
• Canadian Armed Forces
• Lue Elizondo
• Bob Lazar
• Skinwalker Ranch

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Royal Canadian Army Cadets, Canadian Armed Forces, NORAD, AATIP

Places: Canadian Arctic

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