Ep. 138 - The Science of Following Your Heart with Olivia de Sousa

Ep. 138 - The Science of Following Your Heart with Olivia de Sousa

From The SPIRAL UP Podcast with Dr. LaChelle Wieme by Dr. LaChelle Wieme

May 27, 2026 · 35 min · Season 2 · Episode 138

About this episode

Olivia de Sousa shares her journey of leaving a successful business to follow her heart and the insights gained from that experience.

Olivia de Sousa spent years building a successful podcast management business. She was good at it, the income was steady, and she knew she'd transition out eventually. She just thought it would happen on her terms, in a sensible, planned-out way. Then she woke up at 1 AM to a message that everything had fallen through, dragged herself out of bed, and sat there at 2:30 in the morning fixing what she could. And in that moment, she had total clarity: this isn't it. Time to go. In this episode, I'm sitting down with Olivia de Sousa, singer-songwriter, author, and creator of Word Spells , a book of affirmation poetry she wrote over years of coaching herself through her own spirals. What we got into surprised me. Olivia's story isn't just about a business pivot. It's about what happens when you finally stop overriding what your heart has been telling you all along. Here's what I want you to walk away with: What your negative self-talk is actually telling you , and why it matters which voice you're listening to The neuroscience behind why your heart may be smarter than your brain when it comes to making big decisions Why affirmations hit differently when you add this one element , and…

People in this episode

Host: Dr. LaChelle Wieme

Guest: Olivia de Sousa

Topics covered

  • business pivot
  • self-discovery
  • neuroscience
  • affirmations
  • decision making

Keywords

  • podcast management
  • self-talk
  • heart vs brain
  • affirmation poetry
  • business transition

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: Word Spells

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