The Spy Who Became Stalin's Greatest | Playdates And A Glock: The Life of a Mom and Spy | 4

The Spy Who Became Stalin's Greatest | Playdates And A Glock: The Life of a Mom and Spy | 4

August 10, 2026 · 39 min · Season 30 · Episode 4

About this episode

The episode discusses the life of Ann E. Butler, a former CIA agent, as she reflects on balancing her career in espionage with motherhood.

As we say goodbye to our series on Ursula Kuczynski (‘Agent Sonya’), we also say goodbye to a singular and formidable agent, who navigated the high-wire act of balancing life as a spy for the Soviet Union...and motherhood. And so, who better to talk to than a woman who's walked that fine line herself, Ann E. Butler. For almost 30 years, Ann juggled raising five children all while maintaining the responsibilities of working for the CIA. And now she's pulling the curtain back on the struggle of the juggle. Plus, whether she ever put the needs of her country, ahead of her family... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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Guest: Ann E. Butler

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Organizations: CIA, Soviet Union

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