Why Starmer is happy to argue with Trump — and how he might help him over Iran

Why Starmer is happy to argue with Trump — and how he might help him over Iran

March 17, 2026 · 26 min

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The episode discusses the potential political implications of Keir Starmer's interactions with Donald Trump and the British government's stance on energy bills and Iran.

EXCLUSIVE: how the British government could intervene in the Strait of Hormuz. Is falling out with Donald Trump politically helpful for Keir Starmer? What is the government likely to do about energy bills? Angela Rayner is back and she's trying to reassure the City that everything would be fine if she were PM. Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times Gabriel Pogrund, Whitehall editor, The Sunday Times Producer: Euan Dawtrey Executive producer: Molly Guinness Picture credit: Getty Images Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe  here . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Guests: Steven Swinford, Patrick Maguire, Gabriel Pogrund

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