About this episode

John Gruber is joined by Tyler Hayes to discuss small phones, foldable designs, Apple TV, and holiday gadget recommendations.

Special guest: Tyler Hayes. Topics include how to get a small phone today, which way foldables should fold, the state of Apple TV (including its new “sonic logo”), and some holiday gift gadget recommendations.

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