453: ‘What’s in Louie’s Wallet’, With Louie Mantia

453: ‘What’s in Louie’s Wallet’, With Louie Mantia

July 31, 2026 · 2h 25m

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Louie Mantia returns to discuss UI and icon design on Apple’s platforms and speculate on Apple's lawsuit against OpenAI.

Louie Mantia returns to the show to talk about the state of UI and icon design on Apple’s platforms, and some speculation on Apple’s trade secret lawsuit against OpenAI.

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Host: John Gruber

Guest: Louie Mantia

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Organizations: Apple, OpenAI

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