Margaret Glaspy on Pain Caves, Typewriters, and Running on Tour

Margaret Glaspy on Pain Caves, Typewriters, and Running on Tour

September 1, 2026 · 56 min

About this episode

Margaret Glaspy discusses the intersection of running and music, sharing personal experiences and insights on discomfort and creativity.

Singer-songwriter Margaret Glaspy joins Zoë and Brendan to talk about the strange and surprisingly rich overlap between running and making art. She shares how watching her mom run planted the seed early, growing up close to the Western States course, how Courtney Dauwalter and Addie Bracy helped draw her into ultrarunning, and why learning to sit with discomfort has changed far more than her athletic life. Margaret also talks about quitting social media, writing songs on a typewriter, finding solitude in anonymous hotel gyms, and the logistical challenge of training while touring in a van. Plus: the financial risks of falling on your guitar-playing hand, the unexpectedly deep musician-to-ultrarunner pipeline, and what Margaret might learn from how ICU nurses train for ultras.

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Hosts: Zoë, Brendan

Guest: Margaret Glaspy

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Books & works: songs

Places: Western States

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