
The episode explores the concept of presence in life and work through a conversation between Cari and guest Spencer Lee.
This conversation focused on exploring the concept of presence and its importance in various aspects of life, including coaching, legal practice, and personal relationships. Cari and Spencer discussed their personal experiences with presence, with Cari sharing how embracing imperfections led to self-acceptance and Spencer reflecting on how presence and grace connect in coaching and meditation practices. The conversation concluded with Spencer sharing his journey of improving presence in different areas of his life, particularly in coaching baseball and his marriage, emphasizing the transformative power of being fully present in the moment. Spencer Lee is an immigration attorney based in Phoenix and the founder of Saguaro Legal. He has been practicing immigration law since 2016, with a focus on removal defense, asylum, waivers, family-based immigration, and federal litigation. His work sits at the intersection of law, humanity, and long-term strategy. Spencer is deeply committed to doing this work not just correctly, but thoughtfully—prioritizing clarity, dignity, and real advocacy. He is building a firm centered on “client astonishment,” where clients feel seen, informed, and…
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