About this episode

Bill and Anna Harder share their journey through stage 4 breast cancer, focusing on quality of life and the importance of love and humor in the face of illness.

A longtime palliative care navigator, Bill Harder returns not as a professional, but as a husband alongside his wife Anna, who is living with stage 4 breast cancer. Together, they share how they’ve navigated a delayed diagnosis, chose quality of life over aggressive treatment, and use dark humour, honesty, and deep love to “walk two roads”. They talk about death binders, funeral pre-planning, and the village that holds them, showing what it looks like to grieve as you go and still embrace joy. The episode closes with a powerful AI-generated love song Bill created for Anna, “Live Till She Dies,” a musical legacy of their life on the land and their commitment to living fully to the end. Visit our website to learn more about our work, check out the book and workbook, view our resources and to join our newsletter: https://www.waitingroomrevolution.com/ Our theme song is Maypole by Ketsa and is licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0

People in this episode

Hosts: Hsien Seow, Samantha Winemaker

Guests: Bill Harder, Anna Harder

Topics covered

• palliative care
• breast cancer
• quality of life
• grief
• humor in illness
• funeral pre-planning

Keywords

• palliative care
• breast cancer
• quality of life
• grief
• dark humor
• funeral planning
• love song

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Waiting Room Revolution

Books & works: Live Till She Dies

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