Why There Is No Such Thing as Secular

Why There Is No Such Thing as Secular

July 13, 2026 · 22 min

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This episode discusses the call of Levi by Jesus and the implications of following Him in everyday life, emphasizing that there is no truly secular space where God is absent.

This episode centers on Jesus calling Levi, the tax collector, and the immediate ripple effect of that invitation. The conversation highlights the simplicity and power of Jesus’ words, “Follow me,” and then turns into a joyful singalong of “I Have Decided to Follow Jesus.” The message is that following Jesus is a daily decision, not a one-time moment, and that even ordinary people can become part of a larger witness when they choose to walk with him. The second half moves into a teaching on Mark 2 and the idea that there is no truly “secular” space where God is absent. Jesus is shown as constantly entering everyday places—homes, workplaces, and social spaces—rather than waiting for people to come to religious settings. The episode argues that grace crosses boundaries, sits with sinners, and restores what sin has desecrated, all while calling followers to take the same risk of being misunderstood in order to embody love. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Morning Consecration and Introduction 02:36 The Gospel of Mark: A Journey Begins 03:34 Jesus and the Tax Collector: A Lesson in Acceptance 04:53 Sacred vs. Secular: The Holy Spirit's Role 08:15 Risking Misunderstanding: Jesus' Mission of…

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Books & works: I Have Decided to Follow Jesus, The Gospel of Mark

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