George Ellis: Hawking's Co-Author on Why Reductionism Is Dead
From Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal by Theories of Everything
April 20, 2026 · 1h 35m
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George Ellis discusses the limitations of reductionism in physics and the importance of context in determining outcomes.
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Host: Curt Jaimungal
Guest: George Ellis
Topics covered
- reductionism
- causation
- physics
- emergent levels
- biological principles
- top-down causation
Keywords
- reductionism
- causation
- physics
- emergent properties
- biological principles
- top-down causation
- George Ellis
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