
Can Artificial Intelligence Be Controlled? With Tristan Harris & Aza Raskin
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May 15, 2026 · 1h 35m
About this episode
Governor Newsom discusses the challenges and implications of artificial intelligence with Tristan Harris and Aza Raskin.
Governor Newsom sits down with Tristan Harris and Aza Raskin of Center For Humane Technology to talk about the rapid rise of artificial intelligence and the challenges it presents for governments and individuals. They discuss how policymakers are thinking about AI regulation, whether current institutions are equipped to keep pace with the technology, and how the global competition for AI leadership could shape the future of tech. Harris and Raskin also talk about their new film, The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist, and why the conversation around AI needs to be about more than just the risks. 00:00 Intro 00:52 The Potential Impact of AI 7:14 Lessons from Social Media 11:58 How Did We Get To AGI? 20:05 Open Source vs. Proprietary 25:46 What Incentives Are In AGI Investment? 30:15 AI Safety Concerns 39:33 The Speed of AI Evolution 45:20 Regulating AI 52:30 Are The Right People In Charge? 59:05 What Should California Do? 1:10:03 Job Market Impact 1:16:50 Innovation & A Pro Human Future 1:21:46 Elections & Politicians For more on the Center For Humane Technology https://www.humanetech.com/ai-roadmap See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
People in this episode
Host: Gavin Newsom
Guests: Tristan Harris, Aza Raskin
Topics covered
- artificial intelligence
- AI regulation
- technology
- policymaking
- social media
- global competition
Keywords
- artificial intelligence
- AI regulation
- policymaking
- social media
- technology evolution
- job market impact
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Center For Humane Technology
Books & works: The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist
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