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The episode discusses AI's impact on healthcare, featuring insights from Naveen Rao and Trey Holterman.

This week, JCal sits down with two builders working on opposite ends of the AI stack: Naveen Rao , co-founder and CEO of Unconventional AI (his $4.5B startup rethinking the computer from first principles), and Trey Holterman , co-founder and CEO of Tennr, the platform automating the messy paperwork that decides whether millions of patients ever get the care they need. They break down why AI already beats ER doctors at diagnosis, why Epic is the most hated company in healthcare, what it takes to disrupt healthcare's $5 trillion incumbents, and whether $1.1 trillion in hyperscaler CapEx will pay off before the energy runs out. Mentioned in the show: Unconventional AI: https://unconv.ai Tennr: https://tennr.com Abridge: https://abridge.com Ambience Healthcare: https://ambiencehealthcare.com Epic: https://epic.com Plaud (NotePin): https://plaud.ai Whoop: https://whoop.com Function Health: https://functionhealth.com Oura: https://ouraring.com Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com Perplexity: https://perplexity.ai Databricks: https://databricks.com Harvard / Beth Israel ER study: https://www.harvardmagazine.com/ai/ai-outperforms-doctors-diagnosis-harvard-study Jack Clark on recursive…

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