The Nick Williams and Phil Ayers Interview with Throwing Fits

The Nick Williams and Phil Ayers Interview with Throwing Fits

From Throwing Fits by Throwing Fits

April 13, 2026 · 1h 47m

About this episode

An in-depth interview with Nick Williams and Phil Ayers discussing their journey in fashion and design.

Subscribe to Throwing Fits on Patreon. Our interview with Nick Williams and Phill Ayers is the rare four mic-er. Nick and Phil—co-founders of Small Talk Studio—cracked a couple of cold ones for a long-overdue chat on wearing your own shit, seven rounds of hoodie samples, the undeserved glazing small talk at menswear functions, living in and designing for New York, hats always sell and suits are picking up steam, fatigue from the graphic gauntlet, their hand drawn custom clothing vs. some popular senior cords you might be familiar with, how to go from roommates to business partners, two pushovers' guide to negotiating, the overlooked fashion talent coming out of NYC, god bless the Garment District, putting the actual work in, never quit your day job, the fallacy of quiet luxury, newsflash: eliminating fun and risk is bad, getting ripped off on Walmart Marketplace, launching a basics line, tales from a linked bank account, Chipotle money is great until the vouchers expire, and much more on Nick Williams and Phil Ayer's interview with The Only Podcast That Matters™.

People in this episode

Host: Throwing Fits

Guests: Nick Williams, Phil Ayers

Topics covered

  • fashion design
  • menswear
  • business partnerships
  • New York fashion scene
  • custom clothing
  • negotiation strategies
  • garment industry insights

Keywords

  • hoodie samples
  • graphic gauntlet
  • quiet luxury
  • basics line
  • fashion talent
  • negotiating
  • Chipotle money

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Small Talk Studio, Chipotle, Walmart Marketplace

Places: New York, Garment District

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