About this episode

The episode discusses the intersection of mathematics, computer programming, and bilingual education in an afterschool program for Latine elementary students.

What happens when mathematics, computer programming, and bilingual education come together in an afterschool program for Latine elementary students? And what does it look like when those same kids become the teachers? In this episode, Theodore sits down with three co-authors of Chapter 10: Learning More Mathematics by Cracking the Code: Promoting Algebraic Thinking through Computer Programming from Antiracist Mathematics Education, Dr. Carlos LópezLeiva, Dr. Sylvia Celedón-Pattichis, and Dr. Marios Pattichis. Together, they share the story behind AOLME (Advancing Out-of-school Learning in Mathematics and Engineering), a program born out of the belief that students in Title I, bilingual communities deserve access to the same doors that computer science and engineering can open. The conversation traces a 20-year arc, from the early days of CEMELA and the inspiration of La Clase Mágica, to after-school programs where kids used Legos to understand pixels and came up with their own ways of explaining hashtags and coding syntax, in Spanish, in English, and in their own language. One student, a decade ago, looked at a computer and said, "computer, write me a program." He was right on…

People in this episode

Host: Theodore

Guests: Dr. Carlos LópezLeiva, Dr. Sylvia Celedón-Pattichis, Dr. Marios Pattichis

Topics covered

• mathematics
• computer programming
• bilingual education
• afterschool programs
• Latine students
• algebraic thinking

Keywords

• mathematics education
• computer science
• bilingual communities
• afterschool learning
• algebraic thinking
• Latine students
• coding
• AI

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: AOLME, CEMELA, La Clase Mágica

Books & works: Antiracist Mathematics Education

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